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I hate seeing idiots make stupid pairings and wonder why people say its a bad pairing. People who say its bad always have a back-up reason. Like my reason for disliking knuxouge is because they are constantly fighting and hitting each-other. Domestic violence- cute. 

Reason why I like shadouge is because they are always together, they get along, they are partners and they share trust. It is possible for a couple :/ Why not make your own reasons for pairings if they really don't work instead of being lazy and saying " ugh its my opinion and I can do what I want" If so then stfu when we complain about it. 
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NeonMantisShrimp420 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like it when someone actually makes up their own reasons for their little pairing. It allows the fanfic writer to get creative in terms of character development. Might not be canon, but who the fuck cares, right?
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Pretty much, I wouldn't mind OCxFC if it actually had a reason and made a bit of sense. Though I do prefer canon over it I can at least cut the people who try some slack. 
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NeonMantisShrimp420 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly. I was going more of the lines if a protagonist was dating an antagonist, but that works too ^^
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Well yeah, that too. I just didn't read it carefully lol. 
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NeonMantisShrimp420 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's fine. No ones definition is the same ya know XD
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BebeSPplz Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
IRK? I hate when it happens, there some people who make pairings because of their "cuteness." I meant, they just ship it with the reason of it being "adorable" in their mind, in my opinion, that's the most dumb reason to ship a pairing, at least they should have a good reason to ship it without being cuteness.

I saw a lot of RariJack shippers, and they says that they ship it cuz the pairing is "adorable" and "canon", I just start to laugh cuz it is not even official in a kids show.

I like BraeJack, I know they're cousins, but at least they love each other in a fraternal way, which Rarity and Applejack fight everytime and are not even interested in each other.
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TuxSonic Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Sure we all know what that abomination does. "sonic loves me cause I can control him" spoiled bitch if I've ever seen one.
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TuxSonic Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Damn straight. :I

Hey, did ya read her new pity journal?
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist
wrote a comment lol

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TuxSonic Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, I just saw that, lol
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist
She was calling people who give her opinions punks in her own language so people could not read it.  comments.deviantart.com/1/4145…
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TuxSonic Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yeah, I saw that too. >:I Thank gosh for crappy Google Translate. pfft, thinking tht we can't interpret her language for ourselves... =_=;; I bet she uses that daily, too. 
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist
She uses it to translate her English because she's too lazy to improve it.
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ShaxiSakato Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
HAHA SARAH I'VE GOT POKEMON X!!
out of the subject btw.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Here's the thing, though: define "good explanation".  You say that the "my opinion" excuse is lazy, but "good" is such an unbelievably vague, subjective term.  It's impossible for something like that not to be based pretty much entirely on opinion.  For example, you dislike a pairing because you dislike the domestic violence aspect.  It's not cute, you say - and you're right.  But that doesn't mean it's not a "good pairing."  That's your opinion.  While it may not be cute, that kind of tension between two characters often makes for a much more compelling and readable story (if you don't believe me, look at some classic works like A Streetcar Named Desire - a serious drama - or The Taming of the Shrew - a comedy).  So when you call a constantly-fighting pair "stupid", even though you may have a "back-up reason", you're still just stating an opinion.  It may be a reasoned, thought-out opinion, but it's still an opinion (and in this case, it's an opinion that does tend to go against the normal grain of literature, so you might want to be careful about talk of "stupid").
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Well yeah, and some people will agree and some people don't. Me personally wouldn't just go to a couple and say " I hate this" I would explain why but there is that reason why people dislike it. Its not really saying " if you don't make an explanation for this you suck 100% " its more of a " please don't make journals, pictures, etc about haters on your couples because you didn't even explain why the couple even works"  They actually believe this couple exists and is true which really isn't the case opinion or not. A good book explains every bit of detail of a couple, twilight has more explanation than most of these pairings because frankly they have no story to it so there is no "readable story"

You're kind of complicating a simple subject of like and dislike and I believe we all have a right to judge. 

Crack pairings are different but yeah do you get my drift? 
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DellyDevil Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well. After reading through this message although I can agree with some points, there is things I am in total disagreement with. 
You are aware the "It's my opinion" card is often thrown around so people don't have to have others question said opinion. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion but people need to realise that an opinion doesn't always equal a GOOD opinion. Good as in Positive, impressive or even has any facts behind them. Opinions are usually built on beliefs and most of the time facts.

So what if I told you that in my opinion the world is actually made of cake. Is that opinion still justified because I simply belief that's what the world is? 

and I know what you'll say 'Well pairings are like movies and thus subjective' however movies are based on facts or fictional concepts. And thus movies can be BAD or Good, is calling a bad movie 'BAD' not a good explanation unless it had facts? there is thousands of movies and games and any sort of media that we consider 'good' and 'bad' because they either appeal to certain people or they're just genuinely so bad that people can't enjoy them. And before anyone says "Well the movie can't be bad if some people like it" well I'm sorry but being in a minority isn't a sure fire way to mean the bad thing you support is a good thing.

I think what Rouge2t7 is trying to say, when you're making a crack pairing that isn't canon could you kindly explain how this pairing came to be? All relationships come together with a purpose whether it's to find love, fill an empty void, help your lover or even be manipulative. I don't think she's saying "THESE OPINIONS ARE BAD MEEEEH! BECUZ THEY JUST MADE THE PAIRING ON CUTENESS MEEEEH!" I mean wouldn't you want an explanation if someone just ran up to you and screamed "THE SKKKKY IS FALLING!" without explaining why he/she believed this?

and also. Your comment on the violent relationship. I think you're alittle mixed up because people who like creepy pairings don't acknowledge the pairing as a 'Good' pairing. Claiming it's a good pairing could mean saying it's a positive relationship. Using things like 'This relationship is very interesting' is more of a neutral stand point. You can claim a twisted relationship is done 'good' but it doesn't mean it's GOOD to read or look at. However most of the times violent relationships are done badly, why? because people just think there is a tyrant seme and a scared uke and apparently it's cute somehow.

Most pairings are just done mostly for cuteness sake. Like how Amy can beat up knuckles and apologise later, it makes little sense as to WHY Amy would do that unless Knuckles liked psychopathic women.

And to be fair. ANY Explanation can work, you seem to take it as Rouge2t7 has HIGH expectations for said explanations. But to be honest, I pm'd her about it and said. 

"I have an explanation for Knuckles and Amy. Amy Rose got tired of being left out of every adventure sonic had and thus she tried to talk to everyone to get some relief from being alone. But eventually she came to angel Island and found knuckles, she began to try and talk to him but he kept pushing her away. Amy Rose got pouty and angry and stormed off however she kept coming back because she assumed Knuckles being a loner could help support her"

And SHE WAS OKAY WITH IT.

That's my explanation for a crack pairing, it took me 20 seconds to think up, 0 effort to perfect and 1 minute to write. Why is it apparently so hard to build a concept for a relationship besides 'cuteness'? Cuteness isn't always a SURE FIRE WAY for a good relationship. It's more then that.

And don't just say 'That's your opinion' because most relationships that try to build anything on cuteness often fails in real life.

And there we go.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in there.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"Opinions are usually built on beliefs and most of the time facts."

That's true of all opinions, not just "good" ones.  Even "bad" opinions (i.e. X pairing is stupid) are usually built on beliefs.

"So what if I told you that in my opinion the world is actually made of cake. Is that opinion still justified because I simply belief that's what the world is?"

"Justified" is an oft-misused word when it comes to opinion.  To be sure, the facts and the general consensus tell us that the world is not made of cake.  But if that's your opinion, you're entitled to have it.  You even have the right to share your opinion, so long as it isn't hurting anyone.

"I think what Rouge2t7 is trying to say, when you're making a crack pairing that isn't canon could you kindly explain how this pairing came to be?"

That's what the stamp says; however, the artist comments say, "I hate seeing idiots make stupid pairings and wonder why people say its a bad pairing."  And that, aside from being a needlessly inflammatory statement, is open to quite a bit of debate.  What's stupid for one person may make perfect sense for another, and vice versa.  Where's the almighty art god who gets to say, "I declare this pairing to be stupid; thou shalt not ship these characters" or "I declare this to be a sensible pairing; be fruitful and multiply"?  There isn't one.  So, yes, rating movies/books/fiction IS a very subjective thing, despite their basis in theme.  Movies are not just BAD or GOOD.  One of my favorite movies of all time is "Medicine Man", which has a 24% on Rotten Tomatoes.  Conversely, I find "Pulp Fiction" to be one of the most god-awful movies in the history of cinema, despite the fact that critics adore it.  To me, Medicine Man is good, and Pulp Fiction is bad.  For most, it's the other way around.  Does that mean I'm wrong or "stupid" for thinking the way I do about them?

"You can claim a twisted relationship is done 'good' but it doesn't mean it's GOOD to read or look at."

Again, that depends on who is reading it.  Have you ever actually read A Streetcar Named Desire, the work that I mentioned in my previous comment?  It involves a very twisted relationship.  And while I don't condone the abusive nature for it, the tension created by it makes a very compelling read (which you may call "neutral" rather than "good", but since most people choose what to read based on how interesting it is, I would beg to differ).  This brings me back to my original point: what is "good"?  "Good" can mean nice, noble, tasty, fun, interesting, relaxing, enjoyable, exhilirating... I could go on and on with words that cover thousands of different aspects of "good".

"Cuteness isn't always a SURE FIRE WAY for a good relationship. It's more then that."

Yeah, that's kind of exactly my point.  The artist here seems to be of the mindset that if it's not cute, it's not a good relationship.  At least that's the attitude the artist comments seem to portray - if that's wrong, then they should be revised; good artists also take responsibility for possible misinterpretations of their work.
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DellyDevil Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hate to be rude but I see no point in continuing.

You question 'What is good?' when to be honest I shouldn't have to pull up a dictionary and explain. Infact... I think I might.

"good
Pronunciation: /gʊd/
Translate good | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanishadjective (betterbest)
  • 1to be desired or approved of:it’s good that he’s back to his old selfa good quality of life[as exclamation]:Good! The more people the better!
  •  pleasing and welcome:we’ve had some good newsit’s good to see you again
  •  showing approval:the play had good reviews
  • 2having the required qualities; of a high standard:a good restauranthis marks are just not good enough
  •  skilled at doing or dealing with a specified thing:I’m good at crosswordshe was good with children
  •  healthy, strong, or well:she’s not feeling too good
  •  useful, advantageous, or beneficial in effect:too much sun is not good for you
  •  appropriate to a particular purpose:this is a good month for planting seeds
  •  (of language) with correct grammar and pronunciation:she speaks good English
  •  strictly adhering to or fulfilling all the principles of a particular religion or cause:a good Catholic girl
  • 3possessing or displaying moral virtue:her father was a good man
  •  showing kindness:it was good of you to come
  •  obedient to rules or conventions:accustom the child to being rewarded for good behaviour
  •  used to address or refer to people in a courteous, patronizing, or ironic way:a man very like your good self, in factthe good lady of the house
  •  commanding respect:he was concerned with establishing and maintaining his good name
  •  belonging or relating to a high social class:he comes from a good family"


    Good often means: Positive, great standard's and something that many people can enjoy. There is no need to beat down on the word as if it's a nazi way of thinking because people want good things.

    You seem to have this very 'Grey' way of thinking like 'WHAT IS GOOD AND BAD' and I apologise to say not everything is from a grey stand point. Grey is like a kid stealing medicene to help his sick mother. There's GOOD and BAD in this situation.
    But what if some vandals beat up an old lady to get weed? is that not BAD?

    Just the simple fact that you question something so simple makes me wonder why I'm even pulling up the dictionary. You question what's good or bad yet we have morals and quality to up keep.

    I'm sorry but if there is a movie that not many people like but you like, it doesn't mean it's a good movie. It just means you like bad movies, which ISN'T BAD. Not at all. But what YOU have got to understand is that Bad and Good to exist in even subjective topic's. Other wise neutral wouldn't exist. Neutral is a mix of GOOD AND BAD.

    I am not trying to be rude but I read this and wondered if you're a sudo-intellectual. You're trying to sound to smart for something so simple.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"You seem to have this very 'Grey' way of thinking like 'WHAT IS GOOD AND BAD' and I apologise to say not everything is from a grey stand point."

Art is.  Is that black-and-white enough for you?  That's how art works.  Art is communication.  It is the artist saying "here's the way I see it."  The artist doesn't OWE an explanation for why they see it a certain way.

"Just the simple fact that you question something so simple makes me wonder why I'm even pulling up the dictionary."

That sounds to me like, "Ooh, I think you're hitting too close to home, so I'll just insult you rather than actually addressing the point."  And you call me the pseudo-intellectual.  See, here's the thing.  There's more to words than mere dictionary definitions.  Words are truly defined by their usage.  But since you're going to throw books at me, here's one for you to to try: a thesaurus.  Here's "good," according to Roget's:

#52 Completeness: Adj. full, filled, replete, ample, good, plump, plenary, pleny, pregnant, flush, round.
#394 Savoriness: Adj. palatable, toothsome, toothy, gusty, sapid, good, good to eat, nice, agreeable, likable, pleasing.
#494 Truth: Adj. good, meritorious, just, sufficient -- bona fide, good, rightful, veridical, straight, sure-enough, sincere, honest, honest-to-God, genuine, authentic, real, natural, native, legitimate.
#512 Omen: Adj. propitious, favorable, favoring, good.
#618 Good: Nn. good, welfare, well-being -- meet, fit, proper, good, as it should be, as it ought to be -- splendid, capital, elegant, clever, braw, famous, royal, good, noble, excellent, gallows, bueno, bon, bonzer, bonny, fine, nice, goodly.
#639 Sufficiency: Adj. good, good enough, plenty good enough.
#646 Expedience: Adj. due, right, proper, decorous, nice, decent, good, worthy, appropriate, meet, fit, fitten, fitting, befitting, becoming, seemly, likely, congruous, suitable, sortable, acceptable, feasible, seasonable, opportune.
#648 Goodness: Nn. good, welfare, well-being -- splendid, capital, elegant, clever, braw, famous, royal, good, noble, excellent, gallows, bueno, bon, bonzer, bonny, fine, nice, goodly.
#656 Salubrity: Adj. salubrious, salutary, wholesome, healthful, healthy, beneficial, benign, good, good for.
#801 Treasurer: Adj. solid, good, reliable, responsible, sound as a dollar, solvent, sound, substantial.
#802 Treasury: Adj. substantial, solid, good, reliable, responsible, sound as a dollar, solvent, sound.
#829 Pleasurableness: Adj. genial, cordial, amiable, good, goodly, nice, fine.
#906 Benevolence: Adj. good, nice, boon -- good, nicely, well.
#922 Right: Adj. right and proper, as it should be, as it ought to be, according to Hoyle, proper, correct, decorous, good, nice, decent, seemly, due.
#944 Virtue: Adj. virtuous, good, moral.
#987 Piety: Adj. righteous, holy, good.

You're trying to make good a simple matter of "this is good" and "this is not", and the world just doesn't work that way, particularly when it comes to art and literature.  While it may be true that some things are just universally accepted as good or bad, art is not one of those things because it is so individualized.

"I'm sorry but if there is a movie that not many people like but you like, it doesn't mean it's a good movie.  It just means you like bad movies."

And who gets to decide it's a bad movie?  You?  Is it bad because nobody likes it?  Is that how we measure bad - not many people like it, so it's bad?  Is the kid chosen last on the playground bad because nobody likes him?  And why are some movies "good"?  Because they're popular?  Because critics like them?

"But what YOU have got to understand is that Bad and Good to exist in even subjective topic's.  Other wise neutral wouldn't exist. Neutral is a mix of GOOD AND BAD."

No, neutral means the exact opposite.  Neutral isn't a mix of good and bad, it is neither good nor bad.  Since you like dictionaries, here's another one for you.  According to Oxford, neutral is defined as "having no strongly marked or positive characteristics or features" and "not helping or supporting either side in a conflict, disagreement, etc.; impartial".  It is entirely possible for good, bad, and neutral to exist in subjective topics.  I never said that there's no such thing as good and bad; I said that for some things, particularly subjective topics like art, good and bad are a matter of individual taste, not one person's arbitrary definitions of it.  (And I wasn't going to say anything about this, but since you see fit to resort to ad-hominem statements, you should know that apostrophes are only used to indicate possession, and the correct spelling is "pseudo-intellectual").

Also, if you're going to say something you know to be rude, there's no need to preface it with "not trying to be rude, but...".  Just say what you're going to say and be willing to face the reply.  I respect that much more.

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DellyDevil Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You just sound a tad to intelligent for something so petty.

That's all I was saying :I
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, sorry.  I'll try to sound dumber next time we're talking about something petty.
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xxxsuigxxxx Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013
Thank you harmonicSonic Imma let you finish but I think she didn't really point out that they were a bad couple, I think it was just her saying her reason on why she thinks shadouge is the best pairing of all time.:kanyewest: 


Oh please dear god I hope you got the reference lol 
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist
LOL
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xxxsuigxxxx Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
Yay someone caught the reference! 
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BebeSPplz Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013
You're really awesome! But do you actually know that there's persons who are constantly confused?
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rouge2t7 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yes but I'm more talking about the ones who will cry over it if you call it out, you know?
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BebeSPplz Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
Oh yeah, I do know.
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G-L9 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Love this stamp.
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EggplantWarrior Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If only :icontyrranux: did this. Sadly, that's not the case because shit like this exists: tyrranux.deviantart.com/art/Se…
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monkeyhero0 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist
Seems legit
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